Posts by Ultimate Axiom

I love the way the mistakes are always made by "Jehovah's Witnesses" or "Jehovah's people", I have never yet seen the Watchtower itself admit, "brothers, we made the mistake!".

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Survey: Who here is an atheist? Who here still believes in God?

by Christ Alone in

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i just wanted to take a survey.

let's not let this get into the same old same old debate of atheism vs belief.

just respond with "atheist" or "believer" or "maybe god exists".

Ultimate Axiom

For all practical and intellectual purposes an atheist – but I would dearly love to be proved wrong (but not for the reasons you might think).

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Are The Governing Body Being Set Up To Take A Fall?

by DT in

the governing body's decision to declare themselves the faithful and discreet slave appears pretty arrogant and presumptuous.

since most of us regard the governing body as arrogant and presumptuous, it's easy to conclude that is the reason that they did this.. what if something else is going on?.

remember when steven unthank was able to get the faithful and discreet slave charged in australia for failing to comply with the working with children act?

You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion When:

by Vanderhoven7 in

here is a list i've started...but hope will be added to.. .

you know you are in the wrong religion when:.

1. the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

Ultimate Axiom

When you have to surrender your conscience to another man.

When you are not allowed to think for yourself.

When you tell everyone else they must question their religion, but you are forbiden to question your own.

When you ar in any religion at all!

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A wife's submission

by Mark_C in

i'm relatively new to the faith, and struggle with many concepts and teachings.

i am getting married soon.

part of the teaching i've experienced is that a wife must learn submission to her husband.

Ultimate Axiom

“you can make some of the N.T appear to support all sorts of things too if you want”

Quite agree, and I also agree there is a big difference between the way women are viewed in the NT over the OT. But the NT is still rooted in the OT, and if MarK_C is contemplating a life devoted to Jehovah, then he (and his fiancée) need to understand how Jehovah views women, and Lev 12 is as good a quote as any (for Jehovah doesn’t change). The womanly submission thing is carried forward into Christianity, “let women keep silent in the congregations, for it is not permitted for them to speak, but let them be in subjection, even as the Law says. If, then, they want to learn something, let them question their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in a congregation.” (1 Cor 14:34-35). And a little earlier is the oft quoted verse used by the WT that “the head of a woman is the man”, and if you want more, see 1 Tim 2 11-12 (I do not permit women to ... exercise authority over a man). The NT may not sanction misogyny, but women are still second class citizens in it, at least while they are on earth.

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THE GOOD NEWS WILL BE POSTED LATER TODAY!!!!!

by EndofMysteries in

a video will be posted later today where all the mysteries of god, the disgusting thing causing desolation, all the contradictions in the bible, why god in the old testament seemed so cruel, why was satan created if god is good, how is god love?

all of the prophecies jesus had foretold which were hidden and lost yet being fullfilled the entire time.

this is the good news that will then spread worldwide, and then the end will come.

Ultimate Axiom

Congratulations again EoM - you have made a second double-digit page thread about nonsense in less than a week. Is that some kind of a record?

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A wife's submission

by Mark_C in

i'm relatively new to the faith, and struggle with many concepts and teachings.

i am getting married soon.

part of the teaching i've experienced is that a wife must learn submission to her husband.

Ultimate Axiom

"I was convinced they had no mandate from scripture to put women down ."

I’m not so sure, as others on this thread have pointed out; a lot of what’s in the Bible is a hangover from the days of tent dwelling nomadic tribes, a nd cannot be wished away. Even bearing a female child made a woman twice as unclean as bearing a male one (Lev 12). Marc_C, if, in spite of all the information available to you, you still believe that being a dub is for you, then go ahead, but don’t expect Armageddon in your lifetime. Or your children’s lifetime, or your grandchildren’s lifetime. Dubs have been doing that for over a hundred years and all it brings is disappointment . Make sure your children get a good and full education, and fulfil their full potential. But beware of women who want to be equal to men! As someone much cleverer than me once put it, a woman who wants to be equal to a man lacks ambition.

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First time poster, Long time Lurker

by BackSlider in

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Ultimate Axiom

Welcome Backslider. I find your observation fascinating. With the indefinitely expanding “generation” they don't need to abandon 1914 , but to harmonise with accepted history they do. I would not be a bit surprised if your explanations turn out to true.